We lack leadership on the pitch....does anybody know who leads the team when they cross the white line? certainly not noble may wear the captains armband but to nice a guy to give teammates a verbal volley when not doing there job....so who else is there? nope cannot think of one either......Bilic telling it as it is to the media is refreshing but his head and his staffs to are on the block.....to good to go down has been said about many west ham teams well like those and this one clearly we aint! you ship 4 goals to Watford and wba you are in big big trouble...its only September but our players look out of ideas already especially at the back.....the big stick needs to come out no more cosy training sessions....

Did you know Upton PARK F.C. were formed in 1866 and played their games at West Ham Park? Not only that they represented GB in the 1900 Olympic Games and won the Football Gold Medal. (just thought i would throw that in there)

the problem is last season we pulled off some amazing wins at city and arsenal etc. its obvious we aren't going to get anywhere near those heights this season. the main problem is we're losing to wba and watford. second season syndrome looks like its set in to bilic reign and it looks like its going to be a season of trying to finish mid table (so far anyway). my opinion is and some disagree thats fine but our signings just aren't what was required. some of them may turn out to be good players for us but fact is we need players that were going to come in and take us forwards, not players who have to take a season to bed in. other teams have surpassed us in the transfer market and its showing early on….everton for example, a shambles last season are rejuvenated with bolasie and co. liverpool with mane, palace are improving with bent eke, and then the sleeping giants of man u and city are awake with new managers and new signings. question is did we over achieve last season due to our greatness or others decline? and have we failed to push forwards with our signings of zaza, calleri, nordveit, tore, ayew? we can argue that this time round we 'spent' big…but did we really or was it in proportion to the extra revenue and tv deals? and did we spend big on average players instead of players that would be better than what we had? its all 'knee jerk' reaction perhaps….but its a debate worth discussing in my view. theres also the matter of some of bilic decisions….favouring calleri over fletcher all the time when its clear as day that calleri is nowhere near ready for this level of football whereas fletcher shows signs of actually affecting a game. the decision on antonio early on. all i can say is in my view we need carroll and cresswell back as even a fully fit payet doesnt seem to have enough to get us winning against the likes of watford and wba at the moment although to be fair its the defence that is a disaster.

I did the tour today and got a ticket for Wednesday's game and was told Sat game was members only, really pissed off.

next time andy carroll thinks he has a bad injury look up the pics of Dario scuderi who broke his leg on Thursday playing for Dortmund youth side......hope the kid recovers from this its probably the worst injury since david busst all those years ago,hope this link works

https://youtu.be/hl-aWTOh5kk

"What an atmosphere", sorry had to do it. Looking at this site and others and just the social media and general media comment on our new stadium, I think I've realised how gullible and naive as fans we are. Before and just after we got the stadium, it was all this legal stuff, over our right to be given it. Then we were told we wouldn't fill it, then we were told the atmosphere will be crap like the Emirates. We were told all this "The Media", every other Tom, Dick and Harry and also by some of our own fans. These fans I describe as the nostalgists, who remember the smell of horse chestnuts in 1958, but actually rarely went to UP anyway. I remember plenty of quiet evenings at UP, let's not kid ourselves that it was always like it was against Man U on that last night. I remember the first times we started to hear the boos, in recent years, so let's not bite on this claim by others that the atmosphere at just the OS is crap. For 35 mins on Saturday it was up there with anything else I've heard at the old place. It also coincided with us playing some amazing football. I think our problem is that we are listening to all these outside comments and trying to prove ourselves. We started to become divisive as fans. The "Standers and Sitters". The Standers think all the sitters are tourists and the Sitters think all the Standers are inconsiderate twats. What about just the "West Ham Supporters"? Are we not all there for the same reason? Yes it's no UP, yes it's not as secure, it's a schlepp to the station, blah blah blah, but so what? If we played at Hackney Marshes I'd go and watch them because it's my team and my club. I don't need to be enticed or sold the idea of going to watch them, what's all that about? I do believe an amnesty over fans sections should be reached quickly. But please don't tell us that we're tourists if we don't stand or stop singing after watching us lose a 2-0 lead to Watford! You can sing and stand as much as you like. We all support in different ways. As for the segregation issue and opposing fans. How about, self control? You know, give the banter, but do you have to fight? Spit at women, curse in front of kids and the elderly? What happens to make these men think it's ok to do this at a football match? Those days are over, move on, you're not Ray Winston and it's not a Nick Love film set. Lastly we've become so instant mash. We had a crap hour on Saturday, embarrassing and shameful, but now Ginge must retire, Byram isn't ready, yet Oxford is? What happens if he has a bad game too? Kouyate is finished and Tomkins should never have been sold? Really? One hour of football and all these assumptions? Lots of hindsight calls as well, "I wouldn't have started with Reid and Ginge" no shit Sherlock! Didn't say that when the teams came out though? All I saw was, "this is our strongest team" stuff. Calm down take a breath guys get yourself along to a match, if you possibly can, deal with the fact we've moved and let's look forward and upwards and act fittingly to fit in with our new mega stadium. Hopefully at some point the team will join us on the new journey...

But because of the idiots fighting and for what? have heard many reasons behind this from poor stewarding to bad segregation to people who just love fighting...there were kids around but it seemed to make no difference to those brainless fools who think they are hard men pathetic truly pathetic.....but I have a feeling this is just the start with so many stories about non west ham fans having season tickets because the club so quick to dish out tickets basically did not work out how the "extra" season tickets could be abused....so you end up with a bowl of a stadium with pockets of fans trying to create an atmosphere and they could be sitting/standing next to people who don't care about west ham...I have yet to go to the stadium and I cannot say I am enticed to do so....on the segregation front I hear you can walk around the stadium and go in through any entrance and then walk all way around inside to get to where you want to be....if true then that is madness wait till spuds/manure/chelski and god forbid millscum if we draw them in the cup.....we are stuck with this situation now and it seems the F.A are now investigating what happened ground closure? prob not yet but I expect a fine no doubt....so messrs gold/Sullivan/brady this "world class stadia" you harped on about has plenty of teething problems and needs to be sorted quicksmart or I for one will not set foot in it and just support from afar.

Okay first things first. I have been to UP countless times and then yesterday was the first time I went to see us at the OS. The stadium itself is fantastic, I was sat in the upper east stand and I the pictures do not do it justice sight lines were quality and for 30 minutes of that game the atmosphere for just a standard game was better than anything at UP over the last 10 or so years IMHO it was absolutely superb and its starting to really piss me off at how negative some of fans have become (More social media then on here).

On to the game and the stands and its where it all started going wrong. Between the 30-35th minute sitting vs standing came in to fruition again and the stewards who were very and poorly timed kicked out about 15 people in the lower east stand now while the stewards were in the process of getting involved the fans decided to start chanting at the stewards and thole situation escalated which is why so many people got kicked out. Then what started as one stand booing the stewards turned to half a stadium booing the stewards for a good 2 or 3 minutes. Now I know some may not agree but for me this was the turning point in the game. As it looked like our players heads dropped for a couple mins then we were quickly stung with a deflected goal. After all you can't tell me that half a stadium booing isnt gonna affect the team they don't know what the fans are booing at all they know that there own fans are booing at 2-0.

After the first it was all downhill from there. After what a cracking start with some of the best football ive seen us play us and an incredible atmosphere to boot. It went downhill from that moment. Suddenlt we conceded and it was like a double whammy then for some unknown reason Collins decided to ignore Adrians shout and somehow didn't see him coming even though he was looking at him and decided instead of heading it out was gonna head it stupidly over adrian. 2-2 before half time the stadium went silent and the atmosphere went from incredible to hostile.

Second half we were plain and simply caught out on the counter and as we conceded a 3rd and 4th more and more fights broke out. Being honest why the stewarding has been poor. Unfortunately many of our fans are going to the game pissed up and looking to start fights and it needs to be sorted ASAP.

To finish off just some notes on a few individual players. Adrian is key to the way we play going forward and needs his best defence in front of him.

Collins, Reid, Byram and Kouyate were absolutely dreadful and apart from Byram the other 3 have been poor a few times. I don't know what has happened to Reid but since he came back against chelsea last season hes been awful. Alot of people will say Collins had the worst game but believe me apart from collins mistake Reid was absolutely dreadful. Lost count of the amount of times he lost his man and wasn't tracking his player, was constantly out of position and wasn't up for the physical battle at all. Byram was skinned over and over and Kouyate should be outright dropped for a few games because his passing like it always has been was dreadful he doesn't know how to win a tackle properly and his positional sense is awful and his workrate which used to be his best attribute is now non exsitent he was constantly strolling round the pitch and leaving noble (who unlike some i thought had a good game and our first coming from him winning the ball like he did so much all game) compltely overrun for the whole second half. I've long been of the opinion hes a center back playing defensive mid and its no wonder in my eyes that his best performances in a west ham shirt have been at center back. There were some positives and some negatives I do think we will get better but I do feel Bilic throwed in to many players who havent had enough game time together at once and didn't rectify the issue when Payet and Lanzini tired.

Sorry for the long post guys just needed to vent a bit! Hopefully you all read the whole thing!

He just doesnt seem intetested?

Thoughts on the new stadium??im throwing it out there to mainly the season ticket holders & others who have been to a few games...
I know its early doors,the team have been pretty dire & negative press regarding stewarding etc...
But do you really feel that its a good move??
Me ive only been once (& it pains me to say this) im in no hurry to go back!!ive never felt like this in 50 years of supporting the mighty hammers,lovely stadium & all that but is it westham??