Ok Ok i know he is not every ones cup of tea and the club are still struggling and have dropped into the bottom three but although he does not play a style of football i like i cannot and will not hold him responsible for all the ills that trouble our club......For me its the players who need to bear the brunt of our frustration at performances on the pitch....yes Moyes trains the players and puts out the game plan and yes while his safety first approach cost us the win saturday the players can have no excuse for failing week in week out for poor performance after poor performance and not wanting or being able to implement the managers game plan whoever is at the helm.....they have a lifestyle we can only dream of and the very mercenary nature of the sport means that why should you care if the club you are currently playing for get relegated because your agent has already lined up a move elsewhere regardless so no need to put your body on the line or kill yourself running for a ball and not going in for a tackle that could cause injury and put your next move in jeopardy....Kevin Nolan joins the coaching staff today will he make a difference? well it cannot hurt and will help Moyes who eyes wide open new what a basket case this club is and being hamstrung with one scout and just two coaches how on earth is he expected to work miracles with those kind of resources....so while he has some responsibility for me it starts at the very top with the lazy way our club is run and that kind of attitude has sunk down to the players who apart from a few do not really care one way or another.

Are the players sulking? are they still pissed off over the team changes for the Oxford cup game that blew up spectacularly in El Pels face....if not that then what is the reason behind the total lack of belief in there own ability...if it was down to the training and tactics then they should of manned up and spoken out to the manager and said so....but this constant malaise that seems to surround this club is ridiculous we have a good spell then bam we just lose the plot and spiral out of control and it has happened throughout our history and i do not know where that comes from....now we are deep in the brown stuff and like many i cannot see a way out but the whole club Board/manager/players need to grow a set and prove they are worth the support that they get because it is waning with each passing week and yes if we go down Haller/Anderson/Lanzini/Rice/Fornals and maybe even Fab after hearing chelski looking for new gk will leave and whoever plays for us next season will be playing in an unatmospheric bowl with maybe 30/35thousand at a push watching.....so i am demanding not asking not pleading not being nice nope this girls passed that i am demanding that these so called players of ours step up grab there bits and show that they are men and not the pathetic little wallflowers who wilt at the first sign of hardship....prove to us that we should be proud to support you as you carry our hopes and dreams onto the pitch and we fans deserve that more than any others this season so COYI lets have it

we had a decent first season under Pellegrini but the second season syndrome set in and basically he was utter pants this season. things like training, recruitment, style etc takes time to change so I know a lot of us look at the owners and now probably Moyes but would we be in this mess if they had kept Moyes on and not gone for the billion dollar man Pellegrini?

yes its the owners fault for choosing him we can say. but could you really blame them for going for a man who had credentials, was well regarded in the game and had one the Prem? add to this that at the time I recall a big outcry from fans that Moyes wasn't the man, that they wanted better football etc and then they welcomed the news of Pellegrini.

my point here is just a discussion on whether our problems now stem basically from that decision - to appoint pellegrini and not keep on Moyes.

would we for example have spent our wad on fornals and Anderson, haller and yarmalenko and Wiltshire if Moyes had been in charge? I recall Moyes wanting the likes of dendonker - proved to be a hard working good player for wolves now.

I've said it before, if you want to compete in the top league now, you can't expect to 'out football' the other teams who have more money and bigger squads and players who are better at that. you have to design a side that is effective ala Leicester using pace and vardy, or wolves using skill and an unusual 3-4-3. then you recruit players for the system you decided on. what pellegrini did was just buy players who were 'good' on paper, but with no plan to implement them into a side.

now Moyes is picking up the pieces and has found out quickly there is no team here. we're a bunch of mercenaries in the most part, flung together with way too many same, same types - lanzini, fornals, yarmalenko, Anderson. we have no real cutting edge, no pace and not enough graft.

Watching that dross today and the couldn't be arsed attitude of the players made me so angry and i am angry with the players not the fans because who can blame people walking out on that i have never seen so many fans me included who just watched in total disbelief at the display going on in front of our eyes.One couple who sit near me and they are lets be kind but they are very senior in years openly weeping yes weeping the man just saying we have lost our club it is no longer the West Ham they both new and they both left at half time and i wish our board could of seen or heard them because they both said they would not be back West Ham are no longer West Ham,But they were not the only ones going our club is falling apart the fans who love the club have finally decided to start voting with there feet Liverpool midweek who here thinks ahhh you no us we'll turn them over its the kind of stupid thing West Ham do well i am afraid we wont and if Liverpool turn up and only put in a minimal effort it is going to be a citeh opening day scoreline or more and the players pffff they aint bothered to busy with social media and making stupid prank videos No the only ones who care are us the West Ham Fans and you could of taken 11 from the stands today and they would of put on a better show than those overpaid overrated fools we call players so thank you Mr Gold/Sullivan and Ms Brady for destroying a once proud club with a fan base the envy of many who stuck by the club through thick and thin well that is being eroded each week as you like social media so much go look at the various blogs/fan sites/you tube channels everyone that is EVERYONE of them cannot see any good coming out of this or any other season with you in charge and when you come to email us about getting our new season tickets do not expect to be busy because after seeing that rubbish for most of the season and the feeble attempts to make signings the usual smoke and mirrors the low ball offers and now the whining about how hard it is to get players in even on loan ha! you only have yourselves to blame this club is like our bubbles is fading and if we go down we will most probably do a Sunderland.

The only thing we can pray for is to go down. This constant insistence from out if touch pundits and commentators that relegation is bad and doom and gloom is nonsense. The perpetual clinging on by our fingertips is more doom and gloom in my book. The vast majority of West Ham seasons in the Prem that I can remember: Mid table bottom half finish, shit cup runs, might beat a big club at home but only a maximum of two, lose to the worst team in the league at home, maybe two, every 5 or so years a “cheap” maverick comes along and does a few step overs and rabonas. That’s it, that’s what we are, who we were and who we’ll always be. Embrace it fellow hammers. Average managers, owners and players. We couldn’t be any more mediocre than we are now under Moyes with the bird we have and the playing staff. So I do let’s forget about clinging on, only to cling on next year and the year after. Let’s take our medicine go down, cut the fat out of the team. We all know who they are. Use Noble, Snodgrass, Antonio to bring on some of our youth and go back to winning games. Playing some football. Let the fans have a season of joy. You never know a lot that have had enough might come back. Watch a bit of football, win most games and come back refreshed. The fans will be refreshed. You never know the owners might sell up and hand it on to someone else. Give a Gerard a chance to manage us in the Champs. Otherwise unfortunately all we are is the same as we were at UP but in a stadium we all hate.

Why you wonder? well after tonights footy i fully expect us to be in the bottom 3 and the tabloids will have a field day as they love bashing us and will be predicting the doom of the club and how we will spend years in the wilderness trying to rebuild blah blah blah....like with Talkshite radio and there woeful attempt at journalism i do not bother to listen or to read poorly researched pieces by the usual suspects...so do not despair fellow hammers let the media have there moment and lets see where the dust settles at the end of the season..COYI

Anyone not seen it then you just have to think what is our club coming to.What am i going on about well simply the latest in a long line of prank videos by the players this one involves Wheelchair you no the guy who is so brittle and injury prone and has to be handled with kid gloves Well he is filmed climbing into a tumble dryer(kids do not copy please)closing it and then flinging door open and shouting at Declan Rice to make him jump oh funny ha ha now how childish and pathetic can these players be and if he can so nimbly climb in and out of a tumble dryer i expect Moyes to give him the hairdryer treatment and put the Prick through a punishing schedule of fitness training as he can clearly do more than he says.

Brighton/Saints/Watford/Burnley/Villa....Home games we must win and Norwich away..win that its 18 points and puts us on the magical 40point mark and hopefully safe....i have picked these games because other home matches we have we will face stiffer opposition and yes Everton/Wolves/Chelski the teams more than capable of winning any of those but with our history just as likely to end up pointless.....Citeh/Bindippers dont see us getting anything Spuds away well we love winning our Cup final don't we:-) so we should scrape through with Moyes at the helm but it will be squeaky bum time for next few months.

I am very disappointed to report. That the aeroplane we used to fly into Doncaster Sheffield Airport this evening arrived at 1622 this afternoon. Followed by an hour on the road at least. Meant the team arrived between 1730 to 1800 for a game that started at 2000 hrs. This shows a total lack of preparation and respect for Sheff Utd. We deserved to get spanked... I'm disgusted., don't know what you think.?

Wtf moves come on