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Case for the defence

Submitted by mcbikeman on

Can we make one? despite Coufal having his critics he gives his all and i would give him a new contract to help with Bench strength next season....Emerson after a slow start in a West Ham shirt has come into his own this season but he is one to keep but a back up is sorely needed there....the centre backs here is the big problem Zouma just cannot run and is no leader so for me get rid....Aguered loses concentration to often and mentally not strong enough for me so move him on as well Ogbonna if only he was 5 years younger but sadly not so he has to go and now Mavrapanos who has the annoying tendency to pass back and cause danger from nothing for us....i would keep him but he needs better coaching and a more senior man next to him to help his game come along......So a lot of money will need spending on the defence this summer whoever is in charge along with needing a proper striker and a left sided midfielder some creative work in the market is going to be needed that is for sure.

Could be worse could be Chelski

Submitted by mcbikeman on

Surrounded where i live by Chavski fans and they were all giving it large about this will kickstart them back to the top lol now i dont like the bindippers but the plastic fans i have had great fun in winding them all up this evening.Billion spent and you cant even beat bindippers youth side and thats with the officials on your side as well lol luv it now they like the manure fans can go lick there wounds and pipe down....COYI

The curious incident of the team in 8th...

Submitted by darrenharry on

Well hello comrades.

I trust all is well in the garden of .org? certainly less muddied than that of our team and the seemingly befuddled view of our fans these last few months.

What a strange juxtaposition we find ourselves floating around in currently.

The world and his wife (and mistress) seemingly have an opinion and a firm belief, tossed into a melting pot of social media, sprinkled with mental health and topped with lashing of sarcasm. Add into this the growling number of podcasts or YouTube channels, all competing for advertising and clicks (anything to not do a real days work) and it can reach a deafening crescendo. You’ll be forgiven for not knowing which way is up (or down) these days…
Throw into this football fans tribalism, incredibly varied intelligence and supporters knowledge ranging from those who have been watching for 50 years+ and those that have been here 5 minutes, plus those (pesky) armchair fans from far flung corners of the world, and it really is the craziest time to try to reach a fair, balanced view of the current situation.
All have tried it. I have on twitter….but realised quickly that you have to remember humour is incredibly important, as is respect. I’ve been drawn into many an argument and realised the rabbit hole was becoming dangerous. Some people aren’t there for a debate, it’s about causing maximum confusion and grief.
So how to unpick this? Noone can really, but for what its worth, I’ve tried to contextualise my thinking below. You may not agree, and that’s your opinion and that’s just as credible as mine, but that’s what makes the world go round.
I won’t be referencing Sullivan and Brady, as we all know they should have gone a long time ago and will eat away like parasites until they are gone.
So.
David Moyes
So, for the most part, for me, an undoubted success. Top half finishes and a trophy. Irrespective of everything else, that, from this club’s history, is a top achievement. There have been some great results, some great journeys, some great buys, some excellent counter attacking footballing.
But.
And this is perhaps the crux of the argument for me.
But.
If we have a manager that has achieved this, has a trophy, has us in 8th, the fact there are “but” statements, from a fan base that for my 40 years of attending have been bereft of any meaningful cheer, the fact that word exists among a rational, balanced fanbase, in my opinion, speaks volumes.
And no, it isn’t because we’ve got above our station, it isn’t because we demand more or better. Far from it. I know no fan that believes we deserve to be top 6 or challenging for top honours, not really.
What I do know, from every game I attend with friends and family and speaking to people around me in the Sir Trevor Brooking upper, is that they are bored.
Bored to tears with what they watch, week in week out.
And that, for me, is the worst thing that could have ever happened to West Ham.
More than the stadium move, more than losing our best players.
Boring.
That’s a real killer.
West Ham, and when I first attended in 1984, was about fun. Attacking, 4-2-4, one touch, creative, ball playing defenders, keeping the ball on the ground.
Looking to score at every opportunity.
And of course, it always failed! But my god it was fun. Laughing at bad players, mistakes. Crying at bad players and mistakes. Pulling my hair out. But that was the point. You never knew what you were going to get (well, mainly defeats!)
But the buzz, the thrill. Beating the big boys, losing to the rest.
Now I know things move on. Times change. Owners change.
But what I’ve never seen is that fundamental basis of “fun” change until now.
What we now have, is a more cautious than ever approach from a manager that has caution intravenously delivered into his blood stream.
The first creeping of the fun reducer was the baffling lack of use of the bench.
So the rules allow 5.
You can have a total of 9 on the bench. So virtually a whole new team, and you can change half of them.
So that’s potentially 20 players out of the 25 you are allowed in a squad, can potentially be involved on matchday. So, 80% of your squad can feel involved to some degree. Push on in training, try to get the managers attention…
You can see where I’m going with this.
The lack of bench usage by Moyes has many catastrophic consequences in the modern game.
Firstly, it’s an inability to tactically change matches (that would mean having a plan B though so…)
Secondly, the first XI are driven into the ground.
Thirdly the 9 on the bench, get little or no time to change/influence the match or showcase their talent and show their worth.
It begins to build resentment from reserve players that they feel they could be challenging, it builds resentment toward the manager, and it will increase frustration, and cause a players to either try too hard and make mistakes, or not play their natural game.
And I feel that’s what we’ve seen an accumulation of in the last 18 months. Ex first teamers, being marginalised, but given no glimmer of hope or incentive to get back in.
The running joke was who would we see on 78 mins, Benrahma or Fornals…just so predictable, late and pointless. And that wasn’t because the first XI were doing so well. We were bottom half last year. Bowen went through a shocking loss of form, played every game, Soucek has been woeful for a huge amount of time, plays every game. Players know this.
We now have almost 40% of the squad looking to move away, or when they (ever) get on, know its almost pointless.
This means another mass squad rebuild in the summer. An aging squad. No youth brought through (despite them winning everything last year).
Oh hold on, he’s played Mubama a handful of times….no, doesn’t count does it…
This lack of production being trained through and rotating a squad that has good players in it, is, in my opinion, neglect.
Tactics.
Now here, I can’t really apply to much negativity, as we knew what we were getting here. It’s what he does, negate. His history is solid foundations, well organised and hard to beat. Everton were always beige under him. Punching above their weight.
However, even by his standards, we’ve retreated so far into our shell, the defence are holding the line just outside Stratford station.
Sure, the front 3, when firing and fit, are among the best in the league. But you cannot keep expecting your troops to win battles on scraps. Nor enjoy it.
The possession stats are important.
Because the game is football, not “negelctball”.
The league will find you out.
Form is temporary, confidence cannot be bought.
We now have a situation where when we have possession, we almost don’t know what to do with it.
Football is a rhythmical game.
Its tempo, muscle memory, fluid.
You cant keep turning the tap on and off.
As a result we go sideways, sideways, back. Forward, back, sideways. Long. Lose ball. Repeat.
Its boring.
It’s been the main mantra for fans groaning and becoming fed up.
This part is the complete antithesis of why I attend or watch football.
Was a time we used to be a lot of peoples second team, because we were fun to watch. Or at least pleasant on the eye, trying to play the right way.
No (real) striker. No (real) left hand side. Aging full backs and our best centre half cant run. A “midfielder” that plays every game but cannot pass.
We’ve brought in another midfielder to join the other 3 midfielders…
I just do not and cannot see the logic in any of these decisions.
I’ll be honest, that win away to Tottenham, was the first time I didn’t celebrate our goals. I was just dumfounded how on earth we had stolen anything. But the logical part of my brain was saying “you know this isn’t happening again anytime soon, no one gets this lucky, and who would we rather have of the 2 managers).
I know my answer.
Sure. We may or may not consolidate a top half finish.
If we win the Europa, I’ll have to re-evaluate all of my understanding of football! But I think I know the answer to that too.
Which would leave me staring at another season of Moyesball.
Boring.
And that could see me finally hanging up my scarf in terms of attending.
Bored.

More depressing news

Submitted by Dartford Bhoy on

iIguess some of you will have already seen this on Youtube, I stumbled across it recently.

Ronnie Stutter, was with West Ham academy until at 14 when Chavski stepped in, looks like a hot property which in fairness the lad would be wasted in our set up never getting a chance. Very quick and reminded me of Tony Cottee :o(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJeN21pLBXs

The end is nigh

Submitted by mcbikeman on

It wont be long now fellow Hammers the club will lose Steiden in the summer Kudus Pacman Bowen looking for greener pastures which they will find but the club cannot replace them because of FFP and so the usual injury prone journeymen who thought there best days were behind them will be recruited on freebies or pay as you play we will slide out of the Prem and into championship obscurity finally putting to bed all this European and top six nonsense the media will be happy and we will finally have our club back the one we know and love.....of course none of it will be Sullivan/Brady/Moyes fault it will be the supporters and our need for "Frontfoot" football that caused it all...what a bunch of Wankers we are eh!

The Morning After The Night Before!!

Submitted by boogerscaravan on

Well, where to start! Such a lot to unpack here.

Firstly, the game. Was absolutely shocking, how bad were we? Moyes got it 100% wrong from the start. Zouma, well, I'm not going to give the clown column space. Phillips had an assured game and should not have come off.

The change should have happened at half time. Soucek should have been given the hook. Cornet should have come on. Seeing as how he had scored in the last game and the system that was tweaked could have remained the same with genuine balance.

Luckily JWP was there when we needed him again. But surely with a rejuvenated Rashford Man U could tear us a new one on Sunday? Thank God for a point in the end.

Now then. The transfer window. We couldn't even get that right. We now have 2 seriously dischuffed players on our books. Benrahma, God knows how me managed to get that one fvcked up. Fornals, I thought he was going to wave goodbye at the end. Otherwise why was he there? Wasn't on the bench. You couldn't make it up.

I think they were vetoed, because we could not get anyone in. Complete Fred Carnos Circus. Cowboy Outfit call it what you want. Sullivan is a klint and that passes all the way down to Moyes. I'm seriously unhappy!!!

Final piece of the puzzle

Submitted by Betty Swollox on

I think Kalvin Phillips signing is one of the final pieces of the puzzle we need in the team. Don’t know much about this Osman but he comes from the same Academy as Kudus so more of that please. I’m liking the current recruitment strategy and this trio are making some good progress. Nothing is ever a given obviously and players we think will do well sometimes don’t and visa versa. Also we seem to be buying better than what we have, which creates competition. I wouldn’t mind a cheeky bid for Almiron either, a god back up option for Kudus and Paqueta and better than Fornals and Benrahma. Anyway fairly happy Hammer atm, and the board are certainly backing the management staff