Look I know think are still raw after that result but I'm hoping, there is enough still in the tank for a well measured debate. Do we play 1 or two upfront? By debate I'm expecting a bit more that just "one upfront" or two upfront. In other words I'm looking for a measured arguement. I think we should play 1 upfront, but to do that we need more urgency, intensity and need better passing of the ball and better movement from all our attacking players. Any one who says we need two, ask yourselves this if we aren't covering the ground with five helping out what makes you think we will with four? Remember it's still in Payet, Lanzini and antonios remit to defend as well! Plus if we play four across midfield Payet will be roaming around leaving us short on the left. Plus who do we have who can or is willing to cover the miles needed to play on that huge pitch? And who is quick enough to do it?

Al Ain an Arabian club have apparently made a £20.2million bid for andre ayew and allegedly offering wages of over £200thousand a week...well injury aside he has failed to impress and I would make the deal..we lose out around £250thousand on the deal but that's the price of doing business....and hopefully those who are involved in our transfer dealings learn there lesson.

3 mill for snodgrass? its embarrassing. 5 mill for defoe 3 mill for snodgrass. these are the best players at their clubs. looks like usual cheap bids.

13 mill bid now apparently. thats more like it tbh. there was never a chance he would go for 5 mill. he's old yes, so its a lot for a 34 yo but in my opinion he's good for another two seasons at least. would be great for us upfront if you ask me. not sure if we are going to up the Hogan bid, seems to have gone dead. celtic want 30 mill for dembele, which at least says they would sell. i guess its up to the board how badly they want him now.

would it be such a disaster? on this seasons performances I would have to say know...clearly he is not enjoying his football whether that's down to our league position or whispers of glory and riches elsewhere I cannot say but I am getting frustrated at his below par performances (not the only player I know that)and players being subbed when clearly he should be...yes he was subbed on Monday but IMO that only happened because he was on a yellow card and was clearly getting more agitated as to what had gone on in the match and with that ref a second yellow highly likely....so would it be a disaster if we sold him for £30million+?...Lanzini always seems to have to make way for payet but again IMO he has more to his game and given the chance could develop further...take away payets free kicks has he really contributed much this season so far?

well I guess it was only a matter of time before one of the leagues powerhouses cast there gaze in the direction of Antonio and any rumour has to be snuffed out immediately...£30/40 million know thanks would rather keep the player who is probably the key member of our squad...no swap deals either....but hey what do I know I am only a fan after all and our thoughts don't matter when it comes down to cold hard cash.....

we were cheated yesterday, there is no doubt. the game was over after 15 mins when man u then had the freedom of the pitch to tire us out. however when i saw the lineup v man u it struck me that actually we had little chance to be honest. man u are not great, mourinho overrates the side in the press after every match. going on and on about how great they are but soooo unlucky. truth is pogba isn't that good, ibrahimovic is old and rooney is dead to football. but when we lined up with antonio up front i just thought …we're finished. as a prem league side who is supposed to be established and with the move to a new massive stadium that promised us riches i find it embarrassing that we have to start a big match against Man U at home with a winger as our main striker. no disrespect to antonio at all…he's a darn good player but its clear why our season has fizzled out into a nothingness. our squad is just not good in a lot of areas. how long are we going to go without having some quality striking options? even if sakho was fit….sakho and carroll is still not enough. we have to buy and not zaza's brother…we need some quality that is proven in the english game. forget the youngsters…I'm talking of here and now goalscorers. they will now cost a fortune and will be thin on the ground…and i suppose this will be the noise from the owners again….so and so is in talks…oh its fallen through but don't worry we've got Jesus Gonzalez from south america who is a massive coup….hes on loan blah blah. No no no. If defoe can be prized away from sunderland great although i really doubt it as that will simply sign sunderlands death certificate. its not down to us to find the players…its down to the board and Bilic so they need to go out and get it done. no nonsense on twitter please we've had enough. send zaza back and sign some quality prem league players. cheers.

No match thread on the main page, Mike Dean just sent off Feghouli for a bad challenge with a straight red card for a 50-50 against Phil Jones... never a sending off he has ruined the game, we looked good in the first 15 mins too

Getting in early.
Few notable mentions.
Thanks Nev and techo boy for righting the ship and steering the org to calmer waters. I think the org is starting to find its feet again. Some notable absentees but then they may ave carked it so cant grumble.
well done to Slav. Keeps a modicum of respectability among a jungle of social media frenzy. I think he'll get it right.....but patience is a virtue.
well done to Antoniò. Boy is doing us proud. Clumsy fucker but 100% commitment proves you can make a career and his passion is there for all to see.
and finally Reid. My player of 2016. He's got better and better this season and is now a top 4 centre half.
Ill try to do better on the org. Life has superceeded my writing efforts, but my ST in the TB upper with my boys has provided me with enough ammunition to write for another 20 years!
I think things are calming down ans finding their way, but there is much to do.
health and happiness to you and yours my beautiful irons.

ok ok you all know who I want us to buy but today I am not mentioning his name I promise...anyway how about the club make a cheeky bid for Sigurdsson....it would help take some of the pressure off of mr payet as this guys a free kick specialist himself and can spray the ball round as well as dimi.....think its worth a punt myself